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/ Re: Making All Become "One", part 2 |
on: Nov 15th, 2009, 2:09pm |
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begin, and they will 9 live eternally, and then too there will be amongst them neither labour, nor sickness, nor humiliation, nor anxiety, nor need, nor violence, nor night, nor darkness, but great light. 10 And they shall have a great indestructible wall, and a paradise bright and incorruptible, for all corruptible things shall pass away, and there will be eternal life.
Isaiah 25:6. And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined. 7. And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. 8. He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.
Book of Enoch 61:1 And I saw in those days how long cords were given to those angels, and they took to themselves wings and flew, and they went towards the north. 2 And I asked the angel, saying unto him: 'Why have those (angels) taken these cords and gone off?' And he said unto me: 'They have gone to measure.' 3 And the angel who went with me said unto me: 'These shall bring the measures of the righteous, And the ropes of the righteous to the righteous, That they may stay themselves on the name of the Lord of Spirits for ever and ever. 4 The elect shall begin to dwell with the elect, And those are the measures which shall be given to faith And which shall strengthen righteousness. 5 And these measures shall reveal all the secrets of the depths of the earth, And those who have been destroyed by the desert, And those who have been devoured by the beasts, And those who have been devoured by the fish of the sea, That they may return and stay themselves On the day of the Elect One; For none shall be destroyed before the Lord of Spirits, And none can be destroyed. 6 And all who dwell above in the heaven received a command and power and one voice and one light like unto fire. 7 And that One (with) their first words they blessed, And extolled and lauded with wisdom, And they were wise in utterance and in the spirit of life.
Psalm 22:27. All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. 28. For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations. 29. All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. 30. A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. 31. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Isaiah 45:22. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. 24. Surely, shall one say, In the Lord have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed. 25. In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
Revelation 5:11. And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12. Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, honour, and glory, and blessing. 13. And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14. And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
It sounds like FAMILY REUNION (Feast of Tabernacles) to me. Can you say, “Amen”?!
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/ Making All Become "One" |
on: Nov 15th, 2009, 2:07pm |
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To Gather Together As “One” …. Family
The following excerpt is taken from the Acts of John, New Testament Apocrypha by Hennecke- Schneemelcher, Vol. II, Westminster Press.
99. This Cross then (is that) which has united all things by the word and which has separated off what is transitory and inferior, which has also *compacted* all things into one. But this is not that wooden Cross which you shall see when you go down from here; nor am I the (man) who is on the Cross, (I) whom now you do not see but only hear (my) voice. I was taken to be what I am not, I who am not what for many others I was; but what they will say of me is mean and unworthy of me. Since then the place of (my?) rest is neither (to be) seen nor told, much more shall I, the Lord of this (place), be neither seen nor told.
100. The multitude around the Cross that is not of one form is the inferior nature. And those whom you saw in the Cross, even if they have not (yet) one form -not every member of him who has come down has yet been gathered together. But when *human* nature is taken up, and the race that comes to me and obeys my voice, then *he who* now *hears* me shall be united *with this* (race) and shall no longer be what he now is, but (shall be) above them as I am now. For so long as you do not call yourself mine, I am not what I am; but if you hear me, you also as hearer *shall be* as I am, and I shall be what I was, when you* (are) as I am with myself; for from *me* you are what I am.(?) Therefore ignore the many and despise those who are outside the mystery; for you must know that I am wholly with the Father, and the Father with me.
John 17:21. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 2:6. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Isaiah 45: 9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. 13. I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the Lord of hosts.
Psalm 2:6. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. 8. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Psalm 87:5. And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. 6. The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah. 7. As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my springs are in thee.
Matthew 23: 9. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Psalm 82:6. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30. I and my Father are one.
ODE of Solomon 10:1 The Lord hath directed my mouth by His word: and He hath opened my heart by His light: and He hath caused to dwell in me His deathless life; 2 And gave me that I might speak the fruit peace: 3 To convert the souls of them who are willing to come to Him; and to lead captive a good captivity for freedom. 4 I was strengthened and made mighty and took the world captive; 5 And it became to me for the praise of the Most High, and of God my Father. 6 And the Gentiles were gathered together who were scattered abroad. 7 And I was unpolluted by my love for them, because they confessed me in high places: and the traces of the light were set upon their heart: 8 And they walked in my life and were saved and be came my people for ever and ever. Hallelujah.
Isaiah 66:18. For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
Amos 4:12. Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel. 13. For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, the Lord, The God of hosts, is his name.
Ezekiel 36: 23. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. 24. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. 28. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be My people, and I will be your God.
Isaiah 60:3. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. 4. Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. 5. Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee. 6. The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the Lord. 7. All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory. 8. Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows? 9. Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the Lord thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee. 10. And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee. 11. Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.
Isaiah 2:2. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. 4. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Isaiah 46:3. Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4. And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you.
Secrets of Enoch 65:6 When all creation visible and invisible, as the Lord created it, shall end, then every man goes 7 to the great judgement, and then all time shall perish, and the years, and thence forward there will be neither months nor days nor hours, they will be stuck together and will not be counted. 8 There will be one aeon, and all the righteous who shall escape the Lord's great judgement, shall be collected in the great aeon, for the righteous the great aeon will
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/ The Carnal Mind Cannot Comprehence What Love Is! |
on: Nov 14th, 2009, 1:15pm |
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In Romans eight we are told that the carnal mind in at war (enmity) with God and cannot please Him.
Romans|8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Romans|8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Romans|8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
What is alarming is, Christians don't know what God has said love "is". Worldly people say I love you, Christians say, I love you, but what does God say love is? Here is what God says love is.
2 John|1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments.
1 John|5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John|5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
From this passage we see that love is confined within the bounds of God's commandments. His love to us also is confined within the bounds of His commandments.
The world believes that their understanding of what love is, is "God's love", but their understanding in God's eye's is lust, pride , or ego centered and from our own understanding.
1 John|2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John|2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1 John|2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Jesus told us that if we loved Him, we would keep His commandments, but Jesus said the sigh that you do not love Him would be, you did not keep His commandments.
John|14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and
ye in me, and I in you.
John|14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is
that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and
I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John|14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that
thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
John|14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he
will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto
him, and make our abode with him.
John|14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the
word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
John|14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present
with you.
John|14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring
all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The world cannot show the love of God, because their mind is rooted in the sin of Adam and cannot manifest the fruit of the Spirit without a regeneration through Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians|12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man
speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no
man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
This brings up another thing, how do we know we have the Holy Ghost? Because the scripture about tells us that no man can call Jesus Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. This is the purpose of the book of Acts, and the Rule of proving the scriptures by the witnrss of two or three scriptures telling us the same thing.
2 Corinthians|13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you.
In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Philippians|3:1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write
the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it
is safe.
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/ Separation from the Love of God? |
on: Nov 2nd, 2009, 7:28pm |
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What can separate humans from the love of the Father?
Matthew 23:9. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Isaiah 45:9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isaiah 46:3. Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel,
(1) which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:
4. And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you:
(2) I have made, and
(3) I will bear; even
(4) I will carry,
(5) and will deliver you.
Can sin separate men from the love of our Creator-Father?
Can demonic possession cause God to lose love for His sons and daughters?
Can worship of false God’s do it?
Can demon worship do it?
Can belief in a non-Christian religion do it?
Can atheism and agnosticism separate men from God’s love?
What about involvement with abortions?
Can mass murderers be separated from God’s love?
Can being a drug addict cause God to turn on His victimized children?
Can not knowing God make Him disregard those children?
Can your church affiliation make God turn against His offspring?
What about the salvation doctrines men teach in the churches?
What if men do not believe God? Answer: Romans 3:3.
Now the Holy Spirit concurs with the Father through Paul.
Romans 8:37. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39. Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
God’s chosen “Savior” agrees with The Father and the Holy Spirit.
John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30. I and my Father are one. 31. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Conclusion
Nothing can separate us from the love of the Creator-Father exemplified in Christ Jesus!
Can you say, “Amen”?!
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/ The Everlasting Gospel |
on: Nov 1st, 2009, 11:37pm |
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The Everlasting Gospel
What is it? It is GOOD NEWS that mankind are offspring of the Father. In fact they are “cells” of his living body shaped with a head, torso, arms and legs. They cannot perish because IMMORTALTY of the spirit is a DNA heritage from the Father. As such the living spirits of men are EVERLASTING. The “everlasting gospel” is that message EXACTLY! The doctrines of men in the churches that mankind will burn in hellfire with devils are LIES. Only the sons and daughters of devils, namely their demonic “images”, will burn and cease to exist with Lucifer and Babylon! As the Father is so are His children. Our spirits have ETERNAL LIFE from conception. And the spirit is the real YOU stuck in a clay envelope. Some men have the attitude of Esau and despise their birthright!
The GOOD NEWS that men cannot perish with devils but they have inherent eternal life as spirits is on the Internet right now and is available to the whole world via cyberspace!
Revelation 14:6. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7. Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Isaiah 40:1. Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned (Lamb FIXED this on a cross about 2000 years ago, John 1:29) : for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.
1 Timothy 4:9. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. 10. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 11. These things command and teach.
Matthew 24:14. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Do you have a spiritual clock? What time is it?
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Ode of Solomon 10:1 The Lord hath directed my mouth by His word: and He hath opened my heart by His light: and He hath caused to dwell in me His deathless life; 2 And gave me that I might speak the fruit peace: 3 To convert the souls of them who are willing to come to Him; and to lead captive a good captivity for freedom. 4 I was strengthened and made mighty and took the world captive; 5 And it became to me for the praise of the Most High, and of God my Father. 6 And the Gentiles were gathered together who were scattered abroad. 7 And I was unpolluted by my love for them, because they confessed me in high places: and the traces of the light were set upon their heart: 8 And they walked in my life and were saved and be came my people for ever and ever. Hallelujah.
The Creator designed this life on earth in human form as an exercise and a training session where all the children must face a negative force that pours on us all the evil and despicable behaviors that we must not practice when we are drawn upstairs for PERFECTION. For the record human life on earth and among devils is called “hell”. And men are ignorant and blind about that fact even though the scriptures tell us plainly that the devils were cast down to hell. Yet Jesus worked among men and conversed with the demons in and on the men in the crowds.
Isaiah 14:12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Revelation 12:7. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
So what we describe as “catching hell” is whatever evil and despicable episode that happens to us in this life.
Death (Circumcision) or Reaping Redeems us from Hell
God said, “I said you are Gods but you will die like men”, Psalm 82:6-8. Here is what happens in human death.
Psalms 16:9. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. 10. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Psalm 22:26. The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: your heart shall live for ever. 27. All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. 28. For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations. 29. All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. 30. A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. 31. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Ecclesiastes 12:7. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Psalm 86:12. I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart: and I will glorify thy name for evermore. 13. For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.
Ecclesiastes 4:2. Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive. 3. Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun.
Hosea 13:14. I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.
John 5:25. 21. For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27. And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Hebrews 12:22. But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23. To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24. And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
1 Corinthians 15: 48. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Revelation 5:9. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10. And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. 11. And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12. Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, honour, and glory, and blessing. 13. And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Now you see the record. We are created IMMORTAL and eternal life is the heritage and birthright of our spirit-DNA from God. IGNORANCE of this TRUTH has given devils a great advantage against men to cause fear and to get men to do many evil deeds out of fear of death and the threat of dying. This is a by-product of man’s stint in HELL. Yet all men are given a specific number of days in hell to experience the negative force of dragons (demons). When our time is up, the Husbandman reaps from the fields of men and we RISE up for PERFECTION in (the Barn of) Heaven.
John,
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/ Eternal life is your birthright! |
on: Oct 25th, 2009, 3:05pm |
| Started by ourfamily1 | Post by ourfamily1 |
We are Immortals and We Just Don’t Know it
When God created man, He made us from His own “spirit substance”, small portions of His own Body. I call each portion one of His living “cells”. He then shaped each “cell” with a head, torso, arms and legs and called them children, male and female offspring. All this was done by Mother Wisdom in Her womb on the 4th Creation day. They then gave unique names to each child after birthing them all “in one day”.
God created man “in our image (Mother is God’s first created image, a female form with breasts) and after our likeness”. This statement speaks VOLUMES to the astute with spiritual eyes. Our Parents are immortal living Spirits. Death is not applicable to them as such. We too are immortal living spirits and we have inherited eternal life as “Our likeness”. Because men are stuffed in clay cocoons called human bodies and men cannot see our spirits, we are deceived into thinking the flesh is truly who we are. The flesh can die and rot, but that is only our gift wrap and container for our spirit self specifically designed for our various roles on the earth-stage. Now look at this PROOF.
Isaiah 66:7. Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. 8. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. 9. Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God. 10. Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her: 11. That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.
Psalm 87:5. And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. 6. The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah. 7. As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my springs are in thee.
Galatians 4:26. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Genesis 1:26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Psalm 82:6. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Death to the body occurs when God reaps the spirit from the clay soil in which He planted it. It is the reality of “circumcision” in the law of Moses before entry into the “promise land”. In this case that land is Home-Heaven, where our spirits are ALL FIRST BORN. Our second birth is into flesh in our various generations of men.
The problem with waking up on earth in a body of flesh and the form of man is the great ignorance inherent with these human roles. Men are void of knowing their glorious birthright as well as the Creator’s purpose for doing this. Fear of death has been used by devils to cause fear in men and to get men to do many wicked things to avoid dying. You do not have to be a rocket scientist or a genius to comprehend heritage. Like Father so is the son. One begets offspring after one’s kind. Bacteria beget bacteria like them when they reproduce and so do viruses. Birds beget birds like them in reproduction of their kind. Fish reproduce little fish like themselves. Humans reproduce humans in a small form like the parents. With man there is an appearance factor involved. It is because no man can reproduce another man. All supposed human reproduction is the handiwork of our Creator-Father. He is the Husbandman and He chooses the clay ground (human womb) in which He plants his tiny infant spirits. The selected human mother can only reproduce a clay cocoon to house that living spirit. Typically they announce, “I am pregnant”!
Isaiah 45:9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Matthew 23:9. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Jeremiah 3:4. Wilt thou not from this time cry unto me, My father, thou art the guide of my youth?
Isaiah 46:3. Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4. And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you.
We are created immoral via our spirit DNA
Secrets of Enoch 23: And Pravuil told me: 'All the things 4 that I have told thee, we have written. Sit and write all the souls of mankind, however many of them are born, and the places prepared for them 5 to eternity; for all souls are prepared to eternity, before the formation of the world.'
Wisdom of Solomon 1: For God did not make death, and takes no pleasure in the destruction of any living thing; 14 he created all things that they might have being. The creative forces of the world make for life; there is no deadly poison in them. Death is not king on 15 16 earth, for justice is immortal
Wisdom of Solomon 2: 22 they did not understand God's hidden plan; they never expected that holiness of life would have its recompense; they thought that innocence 23 had no reward. But God created man for immortality, and made him 24 the image of his own eternal self; it was the devil's spite that brought death into the world,
Enoch 61:5 And these measures shall reveal all the secrets of the depths of the earth, And those who have been destroyed by the desert, And those who have been devoured by the beasts, And those who have been devoured by the fish of the sea, That they may return and stay themselves On the day of the Elect One; For none shall be destroyed before the Lord of Spirits, And none can be destroyed.
Romans 8:29. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Ode of Solomon 7:2 My joy is the Lord and my impulse is toward Him: this path of mine is excellent: 3 For I have a helper, the Lord. 4 He hath caused me to know Himself, without grudging, by His simplicity: His kindness has humbled His greatness. 5 He became like me, in order that I might receive Him: He was reckoned like myself in order that I might put Him on; 7 And I trembled not when I saw Him: because He was gracious to me: 8 Like my nature He became that I might learn Him and like my form, that I might not turn back from Him: 9 The Father of knowledge is the word of knowledge: 10 He who created wisdom is wiser than His works: 11 And He who created me when yet I was not knew what I should do when I came into being: 12 Wherefore He pitied me in His abundant grace: and granted me to ask from Him and to receive from His sacrifice: 13 Because He it is that is incorrupt, the fulness of the ages and the of them. 14 He hath given Him to be seen of them that are His, in order that they may recognize Him that made them: and that they might not suppose that they came of themselves:
Ode of Solomon 8:8. And peace was prepared for you, before ever your war was. 9. Hear the word of truth, and receive the knowledge of the Most High. 10 Your flesh has not known what I am saying to you: neither have your hearts known what I am showing to you. 11 Keep. my secret, ye who are kept by it. l2 Keep my faith, ye who are kept by it. l3 And understand my knowledge, ye who know me in truth, 14 Love me with affection, ye who love! 15 For I do not turn away my face from them that are mine; 16 For I know them and before they came into being I took knowledge of them, and on their faces I set my seal: 17 I fashioned their members: my own breasts I prepared for them, that they might drink my holy milk and live thereby 18 I took pleasure in them and am not ashamed of them: 19 For my workmanship are they and the strength of my thoughts:
Concerning the Son
Psalm 2:6. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. 8. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
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/ Brother Brought Her |
on: Oct 18th, 2009, 12:52pm |
| Started by ourfamily1 | Post by ourfamily1 |
Brother Brought Her
When it comes to amazing things, we need to consider the Creator’s work. To tell us how His own Wife was made, He revealed it in the Biblical account of the creation of Adam. In Genesis Adam had a rib removed from his chest, and from this rib Eve was created. This tells us that in the very beginning of creating a family, God took substance from His own chest area and made our Mother, Wisdom, from it.
Secrets of Enoch 33:3 And now, Enoch, all that I have told thee, all that thou hast understood, all that thou hast seen of heavenly things, all that thou hast seen on earth, and all that I have written in books by my great wisdom, all these things I have devised and created from the uppermost foundation to 4 the lower and to the end, and there is no counselor nor inheritor to my creations. I am self-eternal, not made with hands, and without change, My thought is my counsellor, my wisdom (Wife) and my word (Son) are made, and my eyes observe all things how they stand here and tremble with terror. If I turn away my face, then all things will be destroyed.
Proverbs 8:22. The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26. While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28. When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29. When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31. Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. 32. Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Revelation 12:1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Isaiah 66:6. A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompence to his enemies. 7. Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. 8. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. 9. Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God. 10. Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her: 11. That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.
Psalm 87:5. And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. 6. The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there (Heaven). Selah. 7. As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my (off) springs are in thee.
Galatians 4:26. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Isaiah 54: 5. For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. 6. For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. 7. For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. 13. And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
Psalm 87:6. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Man was created “in our image and after our likeness”. Using God and Mother Wisdom, our “pattern parents”, we see that Adam and Eve were allegories for the creation of the ENTIRE FAMILY “in one day”, that great 4th Creation Day when God made “all the stars” (children). As you know God gave this clue to Abraham saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed and your seed shall be like the stars”. So now we understand the RISE OF WOMEN in our super -family. From the rib (DE- RIB) of brother, God brought (brot) – her into being as his wife or spouse (BRI- DE).
So all the children return to Heaven (the Arch) already previously PAIRED from the beginning. Every male RISES with his God-given female counterpart on the day he dies (when Father reaps him). There is no marrying or giving in marriage in our resurrection. That part was DONE on the 4th Creation Day before Adam was planted on earth. But there is a wedding feast in progress there as I write, and all the matched pairs newly-risen are introduced as couples to the Hosts of children celebrating. This is the wedding feast of God and OUR FAMILY!
John,
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/ Re: Babylon and Capitalism |
on: Oct 4th, 2009, 01:40am |
| Started by ourfamily1 | Post by peacemaker |
This is the name of Satan’s wife, the mother of devils, who was kicked out of Heaven with Satan and their demonic “angels” or offspring born up there. Babylon is wrong in thinking that she will never know the loss of children. When men die the body rots and it appears that God is losing His children. Devils clinging to their flesh-bodies then fall out in every direction. To avoid falling in endless circles (bottomless pit) they grab anyone or any animal nearby as they fall past them.
"Man went out on the field prepared for the slaughter, but he overwhelmed them in the second half."
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/ Re: Babylon and Capitalism |
on: Oct 3rd, 2009, 7:23pm |
| Started by ourfamily1 | Post by ourfamily1 |
that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. 11. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12. The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13. And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14. And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15. The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16. And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17. For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18. And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19. And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
As you can see from this Babylon is the invisible manager causing greed and corruption in business and commerce in all nations of the world. Another attribute that she manages is lust, sex, fornication and drunkenness (through alcohol consumtion (and other recreation drugs). How many politicians do you know of who have been caught in the web of lust, adultery, and alcoholism in the ministration of their duties for the people of this nation and their constituents? How many in Washington have made the cable news headlines recently? How many of them have taken bribes (campaign cash) and back door payoffs to legislate for business interests rather than for the good of the people whom they should represent? You see how Babylon reigns over their minds and influences their decision making and their voting habits. How many of them have extra-marital affairs with women or children? You will not know until they face exposure! But they are under the influence of Babylon. Letting the Reagan era tax breaks for the wealthiest 2 % of Americans will pay for health care for all. Stopping on of the two wars Babylon has us in will pay for the Presidents heath care revamp! Resources going killing our fellow man for whatever reason is leaving 44,000 Americans dying because they could not pay for health while sick. Where is “love your brother as yourself” in Babylon’s prescription for many in congress? Some of our leaders are not Christians. They are self-righteous religious hypocrites!
One final point
Babylon also manages racial and ethnic hatred and lack of empathy and brotherly love. Guess who the mother of WAR is?
Revelation 18:24. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Those who are so keen on starting wars rather than to seek solutions to problems through tolerance and diplomacy have a “mother” influencing their minds. Her name is:
Revelation 17: 5. And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
There is a wise man, a kind of prophet ….YES, I said a prophet … who is trying to clue us in on Babylon’s sins against the USA. If you get a chance, go and see Michael Moore’s new movie, “Capitalism, a Love Story”. At least you now know how Babylon reigns over the nations and the results of her tools in lives of humans. Take a close look at Washington and Wall Street!
John,
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